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Bielenberg Sports Center Expansion, Special Events Policy, 2013 Budget: Woodbury Council Preview

The City Council meets for a workshop at 6:30 p.m. Wednesday.

The Woodbury City Council during Wednesday night’s workshop is set to review the latest plans for the Bielenberg Sports Center expansion, discuss a formal policy for special events and check in on the 2013 budget.

The council meeting starts at 6:30 p.m. Wednesday at City Hall.

Also on the agenda is a discussion of stop signs along Valley Creek Road. See: Woodbury to Discuss Need for ‘Inconvenient’ Valley Creek Road Stop Signs

Check out the full agenda on the city’s website.

Bielenberg Sports Center

Woodbury is looking to replace the aging dome at the sports center with a permanent structure at a cost of about $21 million.

Architects have been finalizing the plans, and the city hopes to go out for bids in January 2013. There have been some changes to the design, as outlined in a council memo:

  • The field house roof has been changed from a metal standing seam to a thermoplastic standing seam (a sample will be available at the meeting).  This has been done because the installation and replacement cost is less than and the longevity is more than a metal standing seam roof.
  • The adjacent irrigation pond will be excavated to provide borrow material to construct the building pad and the increased depth will be a benefit for the irrigation system and for the geo thermal system, which will reduce on-going operating costs.
  • The interior and exterior finishes have been finalized and Pope Architects will review in the animation videos.
  • The overall high point of the field house roof has been reduced by approximately 5 feet to reduce the cost of the steel support structure.
  • The interior floor plans have been slightly modified as the uses for each space have been further defined.

Financing plans are also detailed in the council letter.

Special Events

The city over the past several years has seen an increase in the number and frequency of special events in Woodbury, and provided more than $50,000 in in-kind work for such events in 2012.

With that added pressure on city staff, Woodbury is looking to establish a policy to help manage the process and provide clearer expectations of organizers and the city.

2013 Budget

Also on tap for Wednesday is a “check in” on the 2013 budget.

The city is considering three options regarding the budget, ranging from no dollar impact on the average home to $14.

There is a detailed breakdown on the city’s website.

 

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Joe November 27, 2012 at 04:16 PM
vote no... UNLESS WE DO IT RIGHT AND ADD A COMMUNITY POOL REC CENTER AND AN ADDITIONAL INDOOR ICE SHEET.
John D. November 27, 2012 at 06:02 PM
Without an additional indoor ice sheet, this project is a waste of time and money. Hockey and figure skating are spending thier money outside of Woodbury. The purchase and remodel of Harding Ice Arena boggles the mind as the discussion of a remodel of Bielenberg continues without a third ice sheet. Lets keep our teams, kids and money in Woodbury. Vote no unless its done correctly with a third indoor sheet.
Kris Janisch November 27, 2012 at 06:26 PM
I did a story on why the third sheet of (indoor) ice wasn't included a bit back: http://patch.com/A-nMDS Good comments there.
John D. November 27, 2012 at 07:25 PM
I read your article, it gives no underlining reasons for NOT including a third sheet. Bob Klatt Parks and Rec director says, area hockey and skating groups aren’t fully utilizing the ice time currently available, notably the early morning and evening hours. Stuckert, however, said the Woodbury Area Hockey Club, and other groups in the area, have taken to purchasing ice time elsewhere. His group recently signed up for 1,000 hours of yearly ice time at Harding High School for $175,000 to $180,000 per. Now the question goes out, why? Is Parks and Recs overcharging for ice time? Are the ice time charges in the am and or pm comparable to the day and early eve times? Or should they be lower? If there is ice time available, why are the clubs going else where for ice time? This is the question which should be asked and answered before this project continues. Woodbury needs first and foremost to keep our families and spending here in Woodbury and entice outside groups to want to use our facility as well.
Kris Janisch November 27, 2012 at 07:27 PM
I think that was the basic reason: current ice time isn't fully utilized. I thought at one point the outdoor rink was going to be designed so it could be enclosed at some point, but I'm not sure if that's still part of the plans.
John D. November 27, 2012 at 07:53 PM
I would think early am and late pm would be an issue at any ice rink. Kids go to school and have homework. The question should be, is Parks and Rec charging accordingly? When a business has a time that traffic is down they attempt to bring in traffic with incentives and deals. Has Bob Klatt gone to Cottage Grove to see how they are able to run three sheets of ice? This to me sounds more like an issue with how Bielenberg is run, then use of ice time. Has Bob Klatt looked at how much our clubs are spending elsewhere and how to keep that money at Bielenberg and in Woodbury? Is there anymore public meetings on this issue? I would really like to hear from Mr. Klatt on these issues.
Kris Janisch November 27, 2012 at 07:57 PM
Good questions John. I'm pretty sure the city did bring in reps from local hockey clubs during the process. But I wonder how Woodbury's ice time rates stack up to those elsewhere. Any hockey parents out there have a handle on that?
Joe November 28, 2012 at 04:27 AM
Yes they did bring in reps, but nobody listened. The Hockey club and Figure Skating club were lied to. They were told that it was too much money to include a third indoor rink. The project started at 15m and is now 23m due to asthetic additions, a third sheet could have been covered with that money. The early am hours are during the week, really? and the pm hours are after 9pm, do you really think that 5-14 year olds should be getting home from practice at 11pm? NO OTHER ATHLETIC ENDEVORS ARE CHARGED BY THE CITY FOR FACILITY USE, AND EAST RIDGE GIRLS WERE SUPPPOSED TO MAKE COTTAGE GROVE THEIR HOME. A THIRD SHEET OF ICE WAS ADDED THERE TO ACCOMMODATE THIS, BUT THEY ARE SUCKING UP OUR YOUTH ICE TIME. We were told that the ice would never go above $200 per hour, it is now $210. Soccer players, football players, softball and baseball don't get charged for facilities and are supported by tax payer dollars. Hockey and Figure Skating have to pay with no public support. The City Counsel were also told that an additional indoor ice sheet would create enough geothermal energy to heat the new fieldhouse saving the city utility bills for the usable life of the building, eventually it would pay for itself in energy cost savings.
John D. November 29, 2012 at 05:50 AM
Well I have to say it would certainly shameful if the city does not include a third sheet. With all the talk of new development around Bielenberg, it would be a shame not to do it right, so that Woodbury families could stay in Woodbury, instead if traveling to other cities to spend their time and money.
Kris Janisch November 29, 2012 at 02:45 PM
Good turnout at the council meeting last night. But the city was firm on the third sheet of ice being an outdoor pleasure rink.
John D. November 29, 2012 at 06:31 PM
I wish I had known about the meeting last night!! Is there a meeting planned on the Bielenberg issue? Or are the issues just brought up at the council meetings? And when or have they already had a final vote on the usdue? I'm a little behind on getting on this issue.
Kris Janisch November 29, 2012 at 06:36 PM
I try to run preview stories on council meetings John, unless there's just nothing on the agenda of note. This was a workshop, so no formal vote was taken. I think they're trying to go out for bid in January, but the council seemed ready to go forward with the issue last night.
Kris Janisch November 29, 2012 at 06:39 PM
And here's the post on that meeting: http://patch.com/A-zT1P I'll be working up some additional notes though.
James Currell November 30, 2012 at 10:36 PM
I think John has something going there with the future development coming in Woodbury I ditto his concerns I don't have any Hockey kids - but i think we should be looking very seriously at that third sheet just my two cents thanks

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